• Schindler India is asking for huge Repair charges despite Maint Contract

Hi

I have a maintenance contract for the lift of my building in South Delhi, CR Park with Schindler. I pay around 70K every year for a lift maintenance contract. Lift is of Schindler make and was installed in 2016.

Due to water clogging in drains in the terrace, water overflowed and went inside the lift. Schindler has sent a Repair quotation of 50K for two parts post inspection by the engineer.

The Maintainance contract has a standard Exclusion clause for Act of God etc. but was it not Schindlers responsibility while installation of the lift to ensure that there are no water risks. How as a consumer am I supposed to know that water can go inside the lift and damage the parts ? I would think that a state of the art equipment like that will have sensors which would prevent its working and protect the electric parts in case of a water flow. Also why did they not advice us to take precautions against water flowing at any point of time during installation and maintenance/training. 

As per the Maintainance contract they are servicing the lift periodically and they must be having such experiences with other lift owners / buildings in the vicinity. Why did they never warn us ??

I request your advice if there are any recourse that I have in this case or will I need to bear this heavy expense. 

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32 Answers

First of all water logging is not act of God and you will not be able to get the benefit of this clause.

taking responsibility of the society to maintain building in such a way that the water should not go inside the lift and damaged the essential parts so that the operation disturbed.

If you still believe that this is the fault of Schindler please get your lift repared and file a consumer case against the company for deficiency in service.

Vimlesh Prasad Mishra
Advocate, Lucknow
6852 Answers
23 Consultations

1. Keeping the drainage clog free to let storm water go out freely is your task. The Schindler is not supposed to maintain other parts of your building. 

2. I am certain the Schindler didn't sell the lift as a waterproof machine.  Therefore the responsibilities to keep it out of water solely rests upon you. 

3. J find nothing wrong or illegally in claim of the Schindler.  Therefore filing a case before consumer forum would be a futile exercise. 

Devajyoti Barman
Advocate, Kolkata
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522 Consultations

Dear sir,

Rainfall does not amounts to "Act of God". However, in this case their is a contributory negligence on the part of persons responsible for maintenance of your building. They should have ensured that the drains are not clogged. Schindler can take this defence at later stages. 

As of now you can write an email to them calling them to repair free of cost as it was their responsibility to maintain it. If they repair it it's good. However, most probably they would refuse. If they refuse, you can get the lift repaired after paying the charges, but specifically mention that you are paying the money under protest as the occupiers of the building are facing inconvenience. Make sure to record/document all your conversations.

Later, you can file a case in consumer forum for deficiency of services and recover the amount along with some compensation for all the hassles. 

Hope this answer helps.

Best wishes. 

 

Agam Sharma
Advocate, New Delhi
617 Answers
6 Consultations

Your maintenance contract with Shindler needs to be studied and due diligence needs to be done on it in order to ascertain whether there is any recourse for you or not.

Siddharth Jain
Advocate, New Delhi
6386 Answers
102 Consultations

Schindler is not bound to repair lift under maintenance contract as water has over flowed from terrace gone into lift and damaged the lift 

 

2) you will have to bear the expenses for lift repair 

3) even if you file complaint before consumer forum you would not succeed 

Ajay Sethi
Advocate, Mumbai
97464 Answers
7880 Consultations

The company is responsible for maintenance of the lift as per the terms and conditions agreed there upon between both. 

The damages due to seepage water or a warning about such a situation to you by the company is not a part of the maintenance contract. 

If you would like to repair and keep the lift operationally fit, you may negotiate with the company and arrange for the repair work as necessary. 

Any legal action you may intend to contemplate against the company is not maintainable and you will end up in losing your valuable time, energy and money ultimately. 

T Kalaiselvan
Advocate, Vellore
87666 Answers
2353 Consultations

This is all the responsibility of the lift installation firm to handle this situation. 

Serve them with a legal notice and than file a specific performance suit against them for getting the work done.

Another option is consumer court complaint 

Rahul Jatain
Advocate, Rohtak
5365 Answers
4 Consultations

 Let me get down to the brass tacks. The most viable remedy (presuming that there has indeed been a breach of your AMC) is for you to approach the local District Consumer Disputes Redressal Commission under the Consumer Protection Act. Your claim will be predicated on, among other grounds, deficiency in service and unfair trade practices (materially misleading warranty). Your claim will be for refund and damages.

 

But it may not be needed if you send a notice to the company in question, asking them to honour the AMC and do this for “free.” This may be enough to put the fear of god in them as it were.

 

I am not commenting on the merits of your case because the AMC (particularly exclusion and limitation clauses) and the complete facts of your case are not before me. 

 

Hope that answers your query.

Pulkit Chandna
Advocate, New Delhi
208 Answers
5 Consultations

You can file a complaint before consumer court for deficiency of service

Prashant Nayak
Advocate, Mumbai
32834 Answers
209 Consultations

This is a case of deficiency in service so first send the notice to the firm on facts and technically also after taking advise from the any other firm on the point and if they do not reply in affirmative then file a case before consumer court.

Koshal Kumar Vatsa
Advocate, Gurgaon
2283 Answers
3 Consultations

- As per the agreement between you and the said company , the company is bound to keep the machine in working conditions , and further to instruct the user/consumer of the lift for the precautionary measures , and also its maintenance limitations , where the said company will not be responsible if happened. 

- Since, there is fault of not providing the complete precautions to the user/consumer on the part of the Schindlers as well, hence the said company is under obligation to repair the lift partly with the consumer as well. 

- You should send a legal notice to the said company after narrating that this damage was caused due to their fault and the maintenance contract was given to them for servicing & keeping the Lift in good and working conditions and not for only watching the machine. 

- If refused , then file a complaint before the Consumer Forum in Delhi of your jurisdiction on the ground of deficiency of services .

Mohammed Shahzad
Advocate, Delhi
14751 Answers
224 Consultations

It is obvious that they are trying to avoid responsibility. Send them a notice and if they do not respond then file a case in the consumer forum immediately.

Rahul Mishra
Advocate, Lucknow
14107 Answers
65 Consultations

Dear Sir,

You are suggested to serve a legal notice asking him to repair the same without charging any thing extra and you may pay only for the parts and accessories that are changed or replaced. 

Ganesh Singh
Advocate, New Delhi
6769 Answers
16 Consultations

Lifts are installed in such a way that water should clog in. It is installation problem and company only liable to repair at it's own  cost.

Yogendra Singh Rajawat
Advocate, Jaipur
23010 Answers
31 Consultations

Dear Sir/ Madam,

Kindly let us read the terms and conditions of the contract in detail. If possible kindly send the scanned copy of the agreement and if it is seen that that there is deficiency of service as agreed certainly sue in consumer forum.

 

Anand Shukla
Advocate, New Delhi
666 Answers
14 Consultations

company can’t be held liable unless there’s a defect in product or service.

Mohammed Mujeeb
Advocate, Hyderabad
19326 Answers
32 Consultations

Please issue legal notice and serve upon them for breach of Contract. 

You need not to bear the expenses. 

Let them bear it.

No worries. 

After notice they may work as per the contract terms.

Please approach an Advocate for legal notice and serve upon your opponents. 

No one is above the law even the Schindler .

Ramesh Pandey
Advocate, Mumbai
2541 Answers
8 Consultations

No need to blindly accept what they say and abide by their dictats. Escalate this with their customer case/higher ups. In case they refuse to budge, send them a legal notice in the matter, calling upon them to tackle the situation at hands strictly in terms of the maintenance agreement that they have signed with you.

 

In case the problem is still not resolved; take them to the consumer court.  

 

 

 

 

 

Vibhanshu Srivastava
Advocate, Lucknow
9690 Answers
312 Consultations

Good luck. 

Devajyoti Barman
Advocate, Kolkata
23323 Answers
522 Consultations

Better file consumer court complaint and pay for repair, same will recover from company through court.

Yogendra Singh Rajawat
Advocate, Jaipur
23010 Answers
31 Consultations

Okay.

Please go ahead. All of us are with you in this battle of justice. 

Ramesh Pandey
Advocate, Mumbai
2541 Answers
8 Consultations

That's great to know. 40% discount is battle half won already.

You are welcome!

Best wishes.  

Agam Sharma
Advocate, New Delhi
617 Answers
6 Consultations

Thanks  for your appreciation 

 

you should accept the discounted offer 

 

litigation is long drawn and expensive proposition 

Ajay Sethi
Advocate, Mumbai
97464 Answers
7880 Consultations

If you have decided to fight against the company, you collect the evidences against the company including the aspects that which the company failed to notify you in advance about such calamities.

You may decide about the offer made by the company whether to accept the same or to reject or to demand even more higher offer.

Of if you are firm enough to take up a legal battle against them, then don't give up.

If need be, you can take the assistance of any local advocate for drafting a legal notice or a complaint before the consumer forum etc.

 

T Kalaiselvan
Advocate, Vellore
87666 Answers
2353 Consultations

File a case in the consumer court.

Regards

Swarupananda Neogi
Advocate, Kolkata
2974 Answers
6 Consultations

You may Issue a legal notice through an advocate and file Complaint before District consumer forum on  Defiency of services 

Mohammed Mujeeb
Advocate, Hyderabad
19326 Answers
32 Consultations

- Thanks for appreciation and rating my reply. You may connect with us , if needed further advise. 

Mohammed Shahzad
Advocate, Delhi
14751 Answers
224 Consultations

All the Best

Rahul Jatain
Advocate, Rohtak
5365 Answers
4 Consultations

Thanks.

Rahul Mishra
Advocate, Lucknow
14107 Answers
65 Consultations

Congrats

Prashant Nayak
Advocate, Mumbai
32834 Answers
209 Consultations

Dear Sir, 

As suggested earlier, you are suggested to pay only for the parts and accessories that is replaced and not for the labor cost etc. 

Ganesh Singh
Advocate, New Delhi
6769 Answers
16 Consultations

1. You should send them a legal notice for repair of lift without any cost.

2. If they still refuse to repair the lift then file case before consumer forum against schneider India. You can file case even without serving legal notice.

 

Mohit Kapoor
Advocate, Rohtak
10687 Answers
7 Consultations

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